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Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: bricker (bricker@gisco.net) | Date: 2000-04-11 16:19:57 UTC-04:00
Hi Bonnie
Personally I enjoy the "X factor" in the quotient. It highlights the
personable atmosphere this group exemplifies. Plus, I think I have a better
chance of getting an X than a P F at the rate I'm going. Because of that X I
haven't "given up the ghost" yet on getting to Mystic! But I can see though
why there is some confusion about it. Not knowing that boxes were "Planted"
rather than "Hidden" I also had to ask. If the X isn't in the quotient you
see (cuz not everyone uses it) it only begs another question when you do.
Having been in this group only a few months ...and seen this very question
several times...I can under your questioning its continued use, you being
one of the few to answer that chronic question with regularity! How about PF
with X being added to the FAQ on our web site? Not being a "computer person"
I ask that naively since I have no idea what is involved to do that...maybe
the reason its not there now. Robin P0F0X0 :(


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To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Bushy Point


>Some thoughts about the "X" designation:
>
>The "X" makes sense to those who came to the get-together in VT and
exchanged
>personal stamp impressions in each other's letterboxing notebooks. That's a
very
>small number of letterboxers, however. By and large, it seems to cause a
lot of
>confusion, whereas most people immediately understands what "P" and "F"
stand
>for. I am wondering whether we should include the "X" designation on our
patch.
>Also wondering why it is "X" and not "E"? What does everyone think?
>
>Bonnie
>In back-to-winter Massachusetts
>P7F7
>
>> Stan wrote:
>>
>> >The X for exchanged, what do you mean, you exchanged
>> >the custodial up-keep of a particular box?
>> >I know where I will place box number one, now I need
>> >to go out and research it as I have not been to this
>> >area in about thirteen years.
>>
>> the X thing is just a little informal thing we made up after the Fall
gathering in VT.
>Maybe suconsciously it was a way to create some momentum in our young
hobby, or
>just a way
>to collect more imprints in our stamp books. I simply stands for how many
>personal stamps
>we have exchnaged with fellow letterboxers.
>>
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PFX

From: ty98jay (ty98jay@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 15:06:50 UTC
I would like to know how you count a series. When you find all in the
series is this considered F1 or each in the series is a find.
When you do and X if the person isn't listed how do you post the
exchange (Bee & Taylor). I know that everyone doesn't use both sites
LBNA & AQ. So this makes it difficult to keep your actual counts. I
would like to make a page to keep track of PFX. I'm not a computer wiz
but willing to learn. Do any of you have a suggestion other than a
blah spread sheet.

Rumford Teapot







Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: (john@johnsblog.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 11:27:55 UTC-04:00
If each box in a series has clues, stamp and logbook then
I count them all. If only the last of a series has a
logbook I count it as one, although many count each box.

For counting, you could always go low-tech and pencil the
count into your log book next to the stamp. The ability to
register your find on LbNA is meant to allow you to more
easily skip over clues to letterboxes that you've already
found rather to a way to electronically keep your count.

Choi

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:06:50 -0000
"ty98jay" wrote:
> I would like to know how you count a series. When you
>find all in the
> series is this considered F1 or each in the series is a
>find.
> When you do and X if the person isn't listed how do you
>post the
> exchange (Bee & Taylor). I know that everyone doesn't
>use both sites
> LBNA & AQ. So this makes it difficult to keep your
>actual counts. I
> would like to make a page to keep track of PFX. I'm not
>a computer wiz
> but willing to learn. Do any of you have a suggestion
>other than a
> blah spread sheet.
>
> Rumford Teapot
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: Pamela Smith (smith_pamela@verizon.net) | Date: 2006-09-08 11:43:14 UTC-04:00
While I do log some Fs and Xs, I much prefer to rely on the count I
keep in my logbook. I add up and write totals on each new page
because I personally find that easiest, but doing it every few pages
or whatever would work as well. Luddite, perhaps, but easy,
convenient, and accurate. :-)

pezpam

On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:06 AM, ty98jay wrote:

> So this makes it difficult to keep your actual counts. I
> would like to make a page to keep track of PFX. I'm not a computer wiz
> but willing to learn. Do any of you have a suggestion other than a
> blah spread sheet.



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Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: borisdm2001 (borisdm@adelphia.net) | Date: 2006-09-08 15:51:53 UTC
Are non-traditional, non-traveler letterboxes typically counted in
PFX? Personally I count event stamps in the F count. I haven't gotten
any postals yet. I have been counting virtuals (found and placed) in
my total PFX, but I also keep a non-virtual count as well.





Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: (john@johnsblog.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 12:14:44 UTC-04:00
Here are some guidelines from the LbNA FAQ:

- Letterboxes planted in North America by any person,
regardless of letterboxing affiliation, count as Planted,
and count as Found if Found as below. No other objects can
be counted as Found.

- Further, a letterbox can only count as Found when the
letterboxer obtains a stamp image from any stamp
associated with that box, and their personal stamp image
has been imprinted (or attempted) in the logbook or other
part of the box.

- A box can be counted as Found more than once if the
preceding apply, and its clue, location, and stamp image
have all changed since Found the first time.

- A box Planted cannot be Found by the person who Planted
it.

- Hitchhikers count when initially planted by their
creator, and count as found when anyone else finds them.
Hitchhikers are letterboxes like anything else, therefore
if their creator finds his own creation, he can't count
it.

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:51:53 -0000
"borisdm2001" wrote:
> Are non-traditional, non-traveler letterboxes typically
>counted in
> PFX? Personally I count event stamps in the F count. I
>haven't gotten
> any postals yet. I have been counting virtuals (found
>and placed) in
> my total PFX, but I also keep a non-virtual count as
>well.
>
>
>
>


Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: bret bridwell (dekulink69@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 09:29:05 UTC-07:00
this is how i take the whole PFX counting..
in the beginning, there was a little letterbox.when
someone planted it in the wild it was an P-1.
then came along a letterboxer that found it in the
wild, then it became their F-1. when those two
letterboxers met and exchanged their signature stamps
then they counted an X-1 for themselves. the whole PFX
count was for wild letterboxes that were found and
planted. and only if it had a stamp and logbook.
now that there are postal letterboxes and cooties and
fleas and hitchhikers and virtuals and whatever else,
it is up to the individual as to how they want to keep
track of their counts for plant and find.
i have seen some counts as this:
plant-find-exchange-events-virtuals-cooties-postals-hitchhikers.....
and all the latters with their own plant and find
counts.
so how you play the game is up to you. it is your
game. you plant the letterbox, you find the
letterbox.count it how you want.or dont count it.
thats my take on my game of letterboxing.
thnx, dragonrider83338

--- borisdm2001 wrote:

> Are non-traditional, non-traveler letterboxes
> typically counted in
> PFX? Personally I count event stamps in the F count.
> I haven't gotten
> any postals yet. I have been counting virtuals
> (found and placed) in
> my total PFX, but I also keep a non-virtual count as
> well.
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: PFX

From: Jim Carleton (chaosmanor47@gmail.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 16:53:08 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Rumford Teapot wrote:

> I would like to know how you count a series. When you find all in the
> series is this considered F1 or each in the series is a find...

Well, we're not *nearly* active enough LBers to be all that useful,
but maybe it'll help, anyway. If nothing else, it's pretty easy to
look in our "handy dandy notebook" ;-) and count our finds:

Six boxes found, seven stamps: one of them is an HH, which we stamped
on the same page as the box in which we found it. Two of the boxes
were in a "series", but each box had its own clues and its own stamp,
so each find has its own page in our book. So, you tell me what my
PFX is; I've no idea, especially as we don't keep any records of DNFs.
To be honest, the numbers really don't interest me vis-a-vis LB,
which will probably amaze everyone, as we are five-year geocachers
with over a thousand finds and 77 hides. Go figure, pun intended! ;-)

BTW: DNF means "Did Not Find". It's common geocaching notation.

> I would like to make a page to keep track of PFX. I'm not a computer
> wiz but willing to learn. Do any of you have a suggestion other than
> a blah spread sheet.

I'd do the spreadsheet, anyway. I do that for geodashing, yet
*another* hunt-in-the-wild game that uses a GPSr, but which has no
physical box to find. Its goal is to get within 100 meters of
randomly-generated points on the globe. There's a new game each
month. I keep track of every dashpoint (DP) which I attempt, as well
as every one that I reach. It's really easy to keep track of my
results, and it makes it a lot easier to dig out older DPs, if a new
month drops a DP in an area that looks vaguely familar,a nd I might
need help finding a way to it. If a spreadsheet really does not
appeal, then a running total in your logbook, as suggested by others,
seems the easiest way to do it.

Jim





Re: [LbNA] PFX

From: donutz716 (donutz716@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-09-08 14:02:29 UTC-07:00
If there is a series of 5 boxes and you find all of them, then you have 5 finds. As far as keeping track, I do it manually in my logbooks. I have a count of plants, find, exchanges on going through all of my logs. When I finish a logbook, I number it. I now have 5 books.

ty98jay wrote: I would like to know how you count a series. When you find all in the
series is this considered F1 or each in the series is a find.
When you do and X if the person isn't listed how do you post the
exchange (Bee & Taylor). I know that everyone doesn't use both sites
LBNA & AQ. So this makes it difficult to keep your actual counts. I
would like to make a page to keep track of PFX. I'm not a computer wiz
but willing to learn. Do any of you have a suggestion other than a
blah spread sheet.

Rumford Teapot






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