OK - now that I have had my ideas about this sport totally turned around by
someone who hates newbies, I have to post a message. From the tone of this
forum in the past couple of days (I have been reading messages for a couple
of weeks) I begin to wonder if my first impression of this sport was all
wrong. Initially I saw this as a challenging, fun outdoor activity where
people seemed to be welcoming of beginners. Up to this point all the people
I had corresponded with were very welcoming and encouraging of my beginning
efforts at Letterboxing. I thought I had found an enjoyable new hobby with
intriguing people to "chat" with. Now, with today's posts, I begin to
wonder. Perhaps I am better off keeping my correspondences with those few
who have encouraged me and not expecting that the sport, as a whole, is
welcoming. I hope there will be people who will jump in and correct my new
assumptions. How sad to think you are welcome and then read a post like the
one posted by WolverineButt. If I have offended anyone, my apologies.
But, here is one newbie who HAS been offended.
Memlili
Newbies
7 messages in this thread |
Started on 2001-07-02
Newbies
From: (AK4X4ing@aol.com) |
Date: 2001-07-02 21:41:24 UTC-04:00
Hi all!
My husband and I are brand new to the Letterboxing wonders and loving it! We
live in Alaska and went searching for out first 2 letterboxes last weekend.
We found one (though the clues were uh um er VERY outdated) but couldn't find
the other due to, again, VERY outdated clues. Is there a way to find out
when the boxes were set and how to update the clues? (ie searching for a
tree that no longer exists, now a stump or a clue as a "large live tree" is,
in reality, a rather long dead tree or a spruce on the right that jumped to
the other side and now lives on the left side of the path)
Happy searching to all!
D&J
My husband and I are brand new to the Letterboxing wonders and loving it! We
live in Alaska and went searching for out first 2 letterboxes last weekend.
We found one (though the clues were uh um er VERY outdated) but couldn't find
the other due to, again, VERY outdated clues. Is there a way to find out
when the boxes were set and how to update the clues? (ie searching for a
tree that no longer exists, now a stump or a clue as a "large live tree" is,
in reality, a rather long dead tree or a spruce on the right that jumped to
the other side and now lives on the left side of the path)
Happy searching to all!
D&J
Newbies
From: MARTEL (martel@downeast.net) |
Date: 2002-08-09 16:43:03 UTC-04:00
RE: [LbNA] Newbies
From: Jeremy Irish (jeremy@theirish.com) |
Date: 2002-08-09 14:02:06 UTC-07:00
Stupidity runs amok on all fronts. To embrace the thoughts of one or two
users, especially those who hide behind fake identities as the thoughts
of the whole is pretty extreme. There's no point to take opinions of
individuals like WolverineButt seriously, since they hide behind
throwaway accounts.
I'd say after watching the list as a lurker for over a year, I've
consistently seen a pretty darn friendly community. A few bad eggs
shouldn't worry you. If you're offended by the forums, stick with the
game itself and attend the events where people can't hide behind
technology.
And WolverineButt, I suggest you figure out a better way of offering
your "anonymous" opinions. You're not anonymous, and the City of Tacoma
tax dollars are not meant for you to hide behind a rather transparent
mask. If you wish to be exposed, keep it up.
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: MARTEL
OK - now that I have had my ideas about this sport totally turned around
by someone who hates newbies, I have to post a message...
users, especially those who hide behind fake identities as the thoughts
of the whole is pretty extreme. There's no point to take opinions of
individuals like WolverineButt seriously, since they hide behind
throwaway accounts.
I'd say after watching the list as a lurker for over a year, I've
consistently seen a pretty darn friendly community. A few bad eggs
shouldn't worry you. If you're offended by the forums, stick with the
game itself and attend the events where people can't hide behind
technology.
And WolverineButt, I suggest you figure out a better way of offering
your "anonymous" opinions. You're not anonymous, and the City of Tacoma
tax dollars are not meant for you to hide behind a rather transparent
mask. If you wish to be exposed, keep it up.
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: MARTEL
OK - now that I have had my ideas about this sport totally turned around
by someone who hates newbies, I have to post a message...
Re: [LbNA] Newbies
From: Ruthann Logsdon Zaroff (ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com) |
Date: 2002-08-09 18:23:29 UTC-04:00
I'm not a newbie -- but I've been away from the board for a year or so, and
just returned yesterday to the ugly posts.
Please, understand that Letterboxing is a WONDERFUL pastime with WONDERFUL
participants. Do not let a few people who are a wee bit "off" spoil your
fun. Simply skim past their posts -- which are solely intended to get
everyone mad anyway.
There are NO rules to Letterboxing. There is no "special" club. The LbNA was
started as a gathering point for those of us who are interested in the
sport, and we are a loose bunch of people. Some people like keeping track of
their placed and found boxes (and other stuff), and they enjoy sharing those
numbers. Frankly I don't even know how many boxes I've found -- I'd have to
look in my journal.
The people who run this Web site (I am again one of them) do it for FREE,
and in our "spare" time. We don't accept advertising (at this time, anyway).
We do this to have a more or less central repository of clues within the
U.S.
So, please ignore those nasty posts, as I said, and stay and have fun! Oh, I
was wrong -- there IS one rule to Letterboxing: HAVE FUN!
Ruthann
aka Mirkwood
just returned yesterday to the ugly posts.
Please, understand that Letterboxing is a WONDERFUL pastime with WONDERFUL
participants. Do not let a few people who are a wee bit "off" spoil your
fun. Simply skim past their posts -- which are solely intended to get
everyone mad anyway.
There are NO rules to Letterboxing. There is no "special" club. The LbNA was
started as a gathering point for those of us who are interested in the
sport, and we are a loose bunch of people. Some people like keeping track of
their placed and found boxes (and other stuff), and they enjoy sharing those
numbers. Frankly I don't even know how many boxes I've found -- I'd have to
look in my journal.
The people who run this Web site (I am again one of them) do it for FREE,
and in our "spare" time. We don't accept advertising (at this time, anyway).
We do this to have a more or less central repository of clues within the
U.S.
So, please ignore those nasty posts, as I said, and stay and have fun! Oh, I
was wrong -- there IS one rule to Letterboxing: HAVE FUN!
Ruthann
aka Mirkwood
Re: [LbNA] Newbies
From: "Tig" (mainetig@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-08-09 15:40:01 UTC-07:00
Please don't let the few spoil your enjoyment of this fabulous hobby.
I personally feel that your first impressions of this group were right
on. Overall everyone in this group is friendly, helpful, and welcoming
of newbies.
Newbies are what make this hobby thrive. The help it expand, grow,
stay active, keep it interesting. Remember, letterboxing had "rules"
but most are also open to interpretation - something that allows it
anyone's desired level of participation and/or creativity.
It is to bad that this list has taken on such a ton over the last
couple of days - but I do believe that this to shall pass. I think you
will find that the majority of members here do not agree with
WolverineButt's viewpoint - or at least the way he/she has chosen to
express it - and that many are offended by it. However, we are in the
great USA, and are all guaranteed the right to freedom of speech and to
express our opinions. No where does it state that we all must agree or
listen, but each of us has the right to say what we think.
All Newbies, please stick around and see the fun this list can be. In
the meantime, I encourage you to exercise that delete key or set up
some mail filters.
May everyone have a GREAT boxing weekend!!
Tig
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I personally feel that your first impressions of this group were right
on. Overall everyone in this group is friendly, helpful, and welcoming
of newbies.
Newbies are what make this hobby thrive. The help it expand, grow,
stay active, keep it interesting. Remember, letterboxing had "rules"
but most are also open to interpretation - something that allows it
anyone's desired level of participation and/or creativity.
It is to bad that this list has taken on such a ton over the last
couple of days - but I do believe that this to shall pass. I think you
will find that the majority of members here do not agree with
WolverineButt's viewpoint - or at least the way he/she has chosen to
express it - and that many are offended by it. However, we are in the
great USA, and are all guaranteed the right to freedom of speech and to
express our opinions. No where does it state that we all must agree or
listen, but each of us has the right to say what we think.
All Newbies, please stick around and see the fun this list can be. In
the meantime, I encourage you to exercise that delete key or set up
some mail filters.
May everyone have a GREAT boxing weekend!!
Tig
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HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs
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Re: [LbNA] Newbies
From: Chris Hubbard (blndbuck@sover.net) |
Date: 2002-08-09 18:52:58 UTC-04:00
Thank you for all your work on this website! It's easy to use, and very
attractive. I admire people who know how to make stuff like this work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Kittlekatz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruthann Logsdon Zaroff"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Newbies
> I'm not a newbie -- but I've been away from the board for a year or so,
and
> just returned yesterday to the ugly posts.
>
> Please, understand that Letterboxing is a WONDERFUL pastime with WONDERFUL
> participants. Do not let a few people who are a wee bit "off" spoil your
> fun. Simply skim past their posts -- which are solely intended to get
> everyone mad anyway.
>
> There are NO rules to Letterboxing. There is no "special" club. The LbNA
was
> started as a gathering point for those of us who are interested in the
> sport, and we are a loose bunch of people. Some people like keeping track
of
> their placed and found boxes (and other stuff), and they enjoy sharing
those
> numbers. Frankly I don't even know how many boxes I've found -- I'd have
to
> look in my journal.
>
> The people who run this Web site (I am again one of them) do it for FREE,
> and in our "spare" time. We don't accept advertising (at this time,
anyway).
> We do this to have a more or less central repository of clues within the
> U.S.
>
> So, please ignore those nasty posts, as I said, and stay and have fun! Oh,
I
> was wrong -- there IS one rule to Letterboxing: HAVE FUN!
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
attractive. I admire people who know how to make stuff like this work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Kittlekatz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruthann Logsdon Zaroff"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Newbies
> I'm not a newbie -- but I've been away from the board for a year or so,
and
> just returned yesterday to the ugly posts.
>
> Please, understand that Letterboxing is a WONDERFUL pastime with WONDERFUL
> participants. Do not let a few people who are a wee bit "off" spoil your
> fun. Simply skim past their posts -- which are solely intended to get
> everyone mad anyway.
>
> There are NO rules to Letterboxing. There is no "special" club. The LbNA
was
> started as a gathering point for those of us who are interested in the
> sport, and we are a loose bunch of people. Some people like keeping track
of
> their placed and found boxes (and other stuff), and they enjoy sharing
those
> numbers. Frankly I don't even know how many boxes I've found -- I'd have
to
> look in my journal.
>
> The people who run this Web site (I am again one of them) do it for FREE,
> and in our "spare" time. We don't accept advertising (at this time,
anyway).
> We do this to have a more or less central repository of clues within the
> U.S.
>
> So, please ignore those nasty posts, as I said, and stay and have fun! Oh,
I
> was wrong -- there IS one rule to Letterboxing: HAVE FUN!
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe: mailto:letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> List info, archives, etc: http://www.letterboxing.org/list.html
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
Re: [LbNA] Newbies
From: (mohmers@aol.com) |
Date: 2002-08-09 20:16:25 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 8/9/02 3:23:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com writes:
<<
I'm not a newbie -- but I've been away from the board for a year or so, and
just returned yesterday .................
>>
Hi RuthAnn,
Glad to see you back and busy. I hope all is well.
I have enjoyed your Mirkwood letterboxing theme pages.
:o)
Mohmers
ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com writes:
<<
I'm not a newbie -- but I've been away from the board for a year or so, and
just returned yesterday .................
>>
Hi RuthAnn,
Glad to see you back and busy. I hope all is well.
I have enjoyed your Mirkwood letterboxing theme pages.
:o)
Mohmers