Some interesting facts. In an endemic area 85% of the ticks will be pos for
lyme disease. It takes between 24 and 48 hours for an infected tick to infect a
person once attached. The person is infected when the tick has gorged itself
and regurgitates,(pleasant thought) so if ticks are removed within a few hours
of one's outing no testing or treatment is required unless a rash or
unexplained symptoms develop. The Park workers on Long Island check each other at the
end of each shift and have very low rates of infestation. There is a vaccine
for lyme but unfortunately it is only 50 % effective.


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Here's an easy, painless way to get rid of ticks, with something most
folks have sitting around the house. I'm from Texas and this is what my
family has been doing for generations.

All you have to do is get some Vaseline on your finger, a good bit of
it, and slather it over the tick. Cover it completely. Wait a few minutes
and the Vaseline will make that tick back out of your skin, then you can
just pull it out easily. I'm not sure what about the petroleum jelly makes
them do that, but maybe it cuts off their air supply or such as that. Works
like a charm. Works on pets, too.

Longhorn

-----Original Message-----
From: Magic Mike [mailto:mmletterbox@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:44 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Ticks


Hi...

This may be slightly off topic...but when I go boxing...I always wind up
with a tick or two.

I found something easier than tweezing the buggers out...There's a product
called Rid-a-Tick...you put a sticker on the tick...and pull it off...

The great part is now it is stuck to be tested for Lyme Disease...

Magic Mike

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Having just written tick procedures for my Girl Scouting Service
Unit, I found that Vasaline, matches, etc are not the preferred
method for removing ticks. According to the CDC the best method is
to use a pair of tweezers and pull the tick out. It was found that
they tend to "regurgitate" less when using the tweezer method. Upon
removal of the tick, attach it to an index card and note where on
the body it was found and date it. That way if there was a
reaction, you would have the tick available to give to the Doctor.

As for the vacination mentioned in the previous post, apparently the
manufacturer has discontinued production.

Sylvia



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Wolfe
wrote:
> Here's an easy, painless way to get rid of ticks, with
something most
> folks have sitting around the house. I'm from Texas and this is
what my
> family has been doing for generations.
>
>

Well, with all due respect to the CDC, all I can say is that we've been
using Vaseline for years and haven't had a problem -- just make sure you
pull them out when they start to back out. Tweezers work fine too, but you
have to be extra careful to grab them as close to the skin as possible, or
you risk leaving the head in your skin.

Pesky little buggers!

Longhorn

-----Original Message-----
From: mothrnatr [mailto:mothrnatr1@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Ticks


Having just written tick procedures for my Girl Scouting Service
Unit, I found that Vasaline, matches, etc are not the preferred
method for removing ticks. According to the CDC the best method is
to use a pair of tweezers and pull the tick out. It was found that
they tend to "regurgitate" less when using the tweezer method. Upon
removal of the tick, attach it to an index card and note where on
the body it was found and date it. That way if there was a
reaction, you would have the tick available to give to the Doctor.

As for the vacination mentioned in the previous post, apparently the
manufacturer has discontinued production.

Sylvia



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Wolfe
wrote:
> Here's an easy, painless way to get rid of ticks, with
something most
> folks have sitting around the house. I'm from Texas and this is
what my
> family has been doing for generations.
>
>



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Prevention is always better than treatment. While that product may be handy
if you do end up with a tick, it woul be better to avoid the ticks
altogether. Wearing bug and tick repellant with DEET will help a great deal
but you may want to wear long pants and either put the cuffs inside your
shoes or put your socks up over the cuffs. Either way works pretty well.
Believe me when I say that Lyme disease is not fun. My father nearly died
last year as a result!

Happy and safe boxing,
Mystique


>From: "Magic Mike"
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [LbNA] Ticks
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:43:41 +0000
>
>Hi...
>
>This may be slightly off topic...but when I go boxing...I always wind up
>with a tick or two.
>
>I found something easier than tweezing the buggers out...There's a product
>called Rid-a-Tick...you put a sticker on the tick...and pull it off...
>
>The great part is now it is stuck to be tested for Lyme Disease...
>
>Magic Mike
>
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Can you all help a city girl out? I've seen photos of
ticks online, but in real life, how big are they
really? Are they easy to spot if they've attached
themselves to you as you're doing your tick check
after the hike? If they bite, do you feel it, or is
it more like a mosquito where you don't know you've
been bit until you see a bump after the fact?

Thanks,

Doodle.



--- Erin Boucher wrote:

> Prevention is always better than treatment. While
> that product may be handy
> if you do end up with a tick, it woul be better to
> avoid the ticks
> altogether. Wearing bug and tick repellant with DEET
> will help a great deal
> but you may want to wear long pants and either put
> the cuffs inside your
> shoes or put your socks up over the cuffs. Either
> way works pretty well.
> Believe me when I say that Lyme disease is not fun.
> My father nearly died
> last year as a result!
>
> Happy and safe boxing,
> Mystique
>
>
> >From: "Magic Mike"
> >Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> >To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [LbNA] Ticks
> >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:43:41 +0000
> >
> >Hi...
> >
> >This may be slightly off topic...but when I go
> boxing...I always wind up
> >with a tick or two.
> >
> >I found something easier than tweezing the buggers
> out...There's a product
> >called Rid-a-Tick...you put a sticker on the
> tick...and pull it off...
> >
> >The great part is now it is stuck to be tested for
> Lyme Disease...
> >
> >Magic Mike
> >
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Small ticks are the size of the head of a pin when they first attach. Ticks
grow as they feed to the size and shape of a raisen, but grey. You
frequently don't feel them bite. They will usually try to migrate to the
back of your neck before attaching.

Choi

---
Can you all help a city girl out? I've seen photos of
ticks online, but in real life, how big are they
really? Are they easy to spot if they've attached
themselves to you as you're doing your tick check
after the hike? If they bite, do you feel it, or is
it more like a mosquito where you don't know you've
been bit until you see a bump after the fact?

Thanks,

Doodle.

Ticks like to go anyplace people are particularly hairy, not just the
hairline on the neck and they will clamp down anywhere. Ticks can be
really tiny like John said, especially Deer Ticks, the kind that
spread lyme disease. The adult bodies are 1/15 inch in diameter and
the nymphs are even smaller. Dog ticks and Wood ticks are much
bigger, with bodies about 1/8 inch on diameter. All ticks have 8
legs, and unlike spiders, the legs look 'curly'. You will not feel a
tick's bite, but you can feel the bigger ones crawling along on you.
That's how I've noticed a few. So, prevention is the best cure
and 'tick checks' are very important as well.

The tickiest times of the year in eastern PA are May-July, but you
can get ticked on (pun intended) any time that the temps are above
freezing.

Do not let this deter you from boxing fun, just be a little diligent
to reduce risks.

Lightnin' Bug
Part Time Tick Magnet

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John Chapman"
wrote:
> Small ticks are the size of the head of a pin when they first
attach. Ticks
> grow as they feed to the size and shape of a raisen, but grey. You
> frequently don't feel them bite. They will usually try to migrate
to the
> back of your neck before attaching.
>
> Choi
>
> ---
> Can you all help a city girl out? I've seen photos of
> ticks online, but in real life, how big are they
> really? Are they easy to spot if they've attached
> themselves to you as you're doing your tick check
> after the hike? If they bite, do you feel it, or is
> it more like a mosquito where you don't know you've
> been bit until you see a bump after the fact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doodle.

We from New England use the Vaseline method, also, for getting rid of ticks. It suffocates them. We apply a dab of vaseline, then cover with a band-aid. About an hour later we pluck them off with tweezers.

BTW, I'll be vacationing at my family home on Cuttyhunk in a few weeks, and am delighted to find there are some boxes there, as well as in Fairhaven, where I spent my winters as a kid. I'm new to letterboxing, but have been carving for years...mostly for use on fibers. I'll be sure to report in on the status of the island and Fairhaven boxes!

Bev, on the east (non-Charley) coast of Florida


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Deer ticks are about the size of a pin head. They are somewhat larger once
they become engorged with blood. Most people don't feel the attachment and once
attached are often quite well hidden in hair clumps. Careful inspection is key
both visually and by running fingers through the hair.


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snow-bee@att.net writes:


> Bev, on the east (non-Charley) coast of Florida
>

Where? North or south?

DebBee, always looking for other Florida boxers


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west palm beach. Where are you? The closest boxes I've seen listed on the site are in Boca.
Bev
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Ticks


snow-bee@att.net writes:


> Bev, on the east (non-Charley) coast of Florida
>

Where? North or south?

DebBee, always looking for other Florida boxers


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snow-bee@att.net writes:


> west palm beach. Where are you?
>

I'm in the Fort Lauderdale area. Have you found the Loggerhead box yet?
Wonderful stamp in that one!

DebBee


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I haven't been down to look in that area, since I've just started. After Cuttyhunk, I will be sure to get there. Thanks for the heads up!
Bev

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Deer tick nymphs (babies) can be very tiny -- even smaller than a pin
head. They are easy to not see at all, and even then they look a bit
like freckles. Adults are a little larger, a like a 1/16th of an inch.
See pic with ruller: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/images/4ticks_cm.jpg

Their bite isn't noticable, no pain, no itch, no bump -- but they hang
on for two or three days making a small pool of unclotted blood then
when they're ready, they take a big suck and their body swells up (and
that's when they're most likely to inject you with the Lyme spyrochete
IF they carry it). I usually find them when I feel them crawling or my
husband will find them during the "tick check."

So, if you are bit, you remove the tick and tape it to a card, write
your name, age, address, where on the body you were bit, and the
location you think you picked up the tick. Take it to your town health
department and they will send it to be tested and inform you by mail
of results (at least, that's how it works in CT).

Interestingly, the lab used to scrape out the guts of the tick & look
for the spyrochete under a microscope, but now they mash up the whole
tick and get a DNA profile, looking for the markers indicating the
lyme germ. Pretty cool, eh?



> Can you all help a city girl out? I've seen photos of
> ticks online, but in real life, how big are they
> really? Are they easy to spot if they've attached
> themselves to you as you're doing your tick check
> after the hike? If they bite, do you feel it, or is
> it more like a mosquito where you don't know you've
> been bit until you see a bump after the fact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doodle.

OH, and tick time is ANYTIME the weather is over 40 degrees F. Even
if there is 2 feet of snow on the ground, if it's a "warm" day, over
40, ticks will be active.

---
> As for the vacination mentioned in the previous post, apparently the
> manufacturer has discontinued production.
>

Sounds like a tick chromatograph! Dissolve in solvent and let er rip!

Lightnin' Bug

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "defygravity2001"
wrote:
> Interestingly, the lab used to scrape out the guts of the tick &
look
> for the spyrochete under a microscope, but now they mash up the
whole
> tick and get a DNA profile, looking for the markers indicating the
> lyme germ. Pretty cool, eh?
>

Thank you for posting that picture, it is the one that I used in my
documentiation and I must have the wrong link for it. I tried to
paste it here but it wouldn't work.

Thanks!


> See pic with ruller:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/images/4ticks_cm.jpg

I've managed to avoid them most of the time, but we even have them
coming in the house around here, so it is impossible to totally avoid
them.

I've found tick spoons work the best for removal. They look like a
very small spoon with a tapered slot in the end. You slide it between
the tick and the skin and pull - it usually removes the head as well
as the body. They sell them in drugstores and sporting goods stores.

Deet works fairly well but has to be renewed often.

Then there is the US Marine Corps solution - pantyhose! Haven't tried
that yet, but it would likely be effective but hot. And it only covers
half your body.

Ted

Hmmm, how bout a body stocking? then you only have head and neck to worry about (not to mention attending to bodily functions in the midst of letterboxing)

Yep, pantyhose would be a really, really uncomfortable solution, but thanks for the visual of USMC tough guys (A Few Good Men in Tights?)

;)
QoS

Ted and Kathy Rice wrote:
I've managed to avoid them most of the time, but we even have them
coming in the house around here, so it is impossible to totally avoid
them.

I've found tick spoons work the best for removal. They look like a
very small spoon with a tapered slot in the end. You slide it between
the tick and the skin and pull - it usually removes the head as well
as the body. They sell them in drugstores and sporting goods stores.

Deet works fairly well but has to be renewed often.

Then there is the US Marine Corps solution - pantyhose! Haven't tried
that yet, but it would likely be effective but hot. And it only covers
half your body.

Ted






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