Oh, most excellent! Congratulations on finding the Burr! Interesting box
that you found it in eh? I thought it was pretty cool. Seems quiet in that
area too. Not a lot of people talking. (oh, bad humor)
But anyway, I look forward to going North again and doing more of the
quests and more of your boxes Tom. I'm sure Sarah will be delighted to hear
that you found the Burr!

Eric Eurto
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----------
> From: Tom Cooch
> To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] Hitchhikers
> Date: Sunday, November 26, 2000 12:19 PM
>
> I had a lovely day yesterday in Connecticut. The high point was
> finding Sarah Fearing's hitchhiking box "Y2K Bug." It had been hidden
> at Julian's Rock west of Hartford, and made my F count an even
> power of ten. Thanks, Sarah!
>
> Also found the Burr hitchhiker that you planted along with Eric,
> Sarah, in Woodstock on the way home. So now I've brought two travelrw
> home to stqay with me for a while. It's pretty nasty out right now,
> so I'm not sure when I'll be able to move them on.
>
> Tom
>
>
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> P19F107
>
> "The game is afoot!"
>
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More on Hitchhikers

We were in Branford this weekend and saw that the Airstream Hitchhiker had
stamped in at one of the Trolley boxes and The Golden Thread. Don't
remember who or when though.

Melissa :)
p7f157x4

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric J. Eurto
To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
Date: Monday, November 27, 2000 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers


>Oh, most excellent! Congratulations on finding the Burr! Interesting box
>that you found it in eh? I thought it was pretty cool. Seems quiet in that
>area too. Not a lot of people talking. (oh, bad humor)
>But anyway, I look forward to going North again and doing more of the
>quests and more of your boxes Tom. I'm sure Sarah will be delighted to hear
>that you found the Burr!
>
>Eric Eurto
>~The Ram~
>
>----------
>> From: Tom Cooch
>> To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>> Subject: [LbNA] Hitchhikers
>> Date: Sunday, November 26, 2000 12:19 PM
>>
>> I had a lovely day yesterday in Connecticut. The high point was
>> finding Sarah Fearing's hitchhiking box "Y2K Bug." It had been hidden
>> at Julian's Rock west of Hartford, and made my F count an even
>> power of ten. Thanks, Sarah!
>>
>> Also found the Burr hitchhiker that you planted along with Eric,
>> Sarah, in Woodstock on the way home. So now I've brought two travelrw
>> home to stqay with me for a while. It's pretty nasty out right now,
>> so I'm not sure when I'll be able to move them on.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> The Orient Express
>> Braintree, VT
>> P19F107
>>
>> "The game is afoot!"
>>
>>
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Hi, all:

Maybe it's just me, but I thought for sure that
hitchhikers were supposed to be "secret".

Sure, some folks like to know where the hitchhiker has
been in the past, but posting where you JUST put one
or heard where one NOW is....It strikes me as not
being the spirit in which hitchhikers were intended.
Spoils the surprise, ya know?

Plant the hitchhiker, keep your mouth shut, let the
finders be delighted.

-Valerie

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--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Valerie Gilson wrote:
> Hi, all:
>
> Maybe it's just me, but I thought for sure that
> hitchhikers were supposed to be "secret".
>
> Sure, some folks like to know where the hitchhiker has
> been in the past, but posting where you JUST put one
> or heard where one NOW is....It strikes me as not
> being the spirit in which hitchhikers were intended.
> Spoils the surprise, ya know?
>

Wow, you are right, Val. What was Trish thinking of narrowing the
field down to only 113 possible letterboxes ! ; )

Jess Terrance

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., rijester@h... wrote:
> Wow, you are right, Val. What was Trish thinking of narrowing the
> field down to only 113 possible letterboxes ! ; )

I think he's probably refering to the one I hid, but not to worry, I
don't intend to let people know where it's hidden--just where it's
been. I did mention the starting location, though, because I wanted
it there for a reason. After that, it'll be a lot more difficult to
find.

Anyhow, if somebody wants it, they'll have to race for it. Only the
first person wins. =)

-- Ryan

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----- Original Message -----
From:
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Hitchhikers


> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., Valerie Gilson wrote:
> > Hi, all:
> >
> > Maybe it's just me, but I thought for sure that
> > hitchhikers were supposed to be "secret".
> >
> > Sure, some folks like to know where the hitchhiker has
> > been in the past, but posting where you JUST put one
> > or heard where one NOW is....It strikes me as not
> > being the spirit in which hitchhikers were intended.
> > Spoils the surprise, ya know?
> >
>
> Wow, you are right, Val. What was Trish thinking of narrowing the
> field down to only 113 possible letterboxes ! ; )
>
> Jess Terrance
>
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>

Hey All!

I thought I'd put my two cents worth in on hitchhikers. It's O.K. to me
if I know where a hitchhiker is. It will give me added incentive to get
my lazy butt up Mt. Defiance again (which in this part of the country Mt
Hood is considered a training hike for).

East Coasters seem to run across hitchhikers every five minutes, but for
those of us over here in Oregon it is a rare event and a hint doesn't
hurt me any. Now it's just getting the time to get out in the Gorge and
do that steep 11-mile round trip!

Thanks to Ryan for placing this new series!

Best regards,

Amanda Briles
The Paisley Orca

A little clarification:

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., rijester@h... wrote:
> What was Trish thinking of narrowing the field down to only 113 >
possible letterboxes ! ; )

I've been wanting to comment for a few months now about hitchhiker
locations being revealed. Somewhere way back in the posts I had seen
a newly planted HH location mentioned more than once. It was Ryan's
post that prompted me to finally share my thoughts on this, NOT Trish
Kurdziel's.

Ryan: I think I now understand why you mentioned your hitchhiker's
location.

Trish: OOOPS! I comletely MISSED your post immediately preceding
mine. Yes- it looks as if my comments were in direct response to your
message when I actually hadn't even seen it yet. So, sorry, Trish. I
agree that your general comment about a hitchhiker "somewhere in RI"
(among some 100+) boxes seems pretty innocuous to most.

But I STILL think hitchhikers were intended to be an "underground
community", so to speak, and hopefully many still are.

Letterboxing sure has come a LONG way from Dartmoor, hasn't it?

-Valerie

> But I STILL think hitchhikers were intended to be an "underground
> community", so to speak, and hopefully many still are.

I think (hope) (know) that there is still plenty of (some)
"dark matter" out there ... we just don't know about it,
of course :-). You just have to look in the gaps ...

At one time there was even a web page that tracked the minute
details of every known hitchhiker's movement -- I think, fortunately,
that this may be defunct now but I dunno. Possibly a positive
trend if true ...

In any case, I think there was at one time some intent to
keep some mystique about what we do, or at least there should
be, IMHO. Otherwise we should just log every hunt and every
hike and every hitchhiker on a big web page like the geocaching
folks do (I guess if people want that, they could do it here,
too ... I assume because it was never done, people don't want
it here).

I will throw out the opinion, while I'm here, that some of the chit
chat about hunting boxes lately seems a bit too detailed and
specific -- but I guess that is for the community to decide. Just
don't give away similar details about my boxes please :-) I think
there is an art to describing the hunt for those with ears to hear
to understand what happened, but to not give anything away to the
clueless. I do know, at least once, that someone on this list gave
away fairly specifically the location of someone else's mystery box
a while back.

> Letterboxing sure has come a LONG way from Dartmoor, hasn't it?

No matter what happens, some mystery still lives in the gaps. Some
letterboxing has, some has not ...

Cheers

Randy,

You are OHHHH, so right! The chatter has grown, just
like the size of the Mail-group, to include, I am sure
inadvertent clues to hidden letterboxes. I am guilty
of giving a little assistance to someone who needs a
little nudge in the right direction, but I would never
say, HEY, a letterbox is hidden right by that tree!
A prime example of my dedication to this precept would
be Rays Dilemma.. this box has been plaguing me for
over a year now, the most help I have ever asked was
for someone to tell me I was in the right place...
generally speaking... I am sure that when I do find it
I will be dissapointed... "what's next?" I guess there
is always "Quatrains" to find.

Just like I don't want to see a stamp before I find
the box, I don't want to find the box until I FIND the
box!

Happy boxing to you:

Chip

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Chuck Straub said:
"I do not think that the location of where it is being

placed should be announced just an announcement of
where it was last found. In this way it can be tracked
but nobody will know where it is going next."

That's my point. There is absolutely NO need to
announce where you plan to put the HH you just found.

It truly ruins the spirit of secrecy of hitchhikers.
And there IS a spirit of secrecy to hitchhikers. Or at
least there was until recently. It doesn't matter
doesn't matter if you are going to place it among 500
other boxes. SHUT UP. BE DISCREET.

Randy Hall came up with an excellent alternative to
documenting the travels of these subculture boxes.
Give them a bulletin board of their own. Isn't that
exactly what HH postings need? A bulletin board to
track their travels? Like Randy said: each box having
it's own thread would be ideal.

Granted, many, if not most of us are techno-illiterate
on the web. But perhaps someone out there IS
web-competent and can set up a web-based bulletin
board with the ease of which Randy referred to. It's a
solution with real merit.

-Valerie

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I don't think simply putting HH in the subject line is a solution. Many
people want to know when hitchhikers have been found, but not where they
have been hidden. There have not been many of these postings, but there have
been a few. I would be surprised if there were any more.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cooch"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers


> I don't think simply putting HH in the subject line is a solution. Many
> people want to know when hitchhikers have been found, but not where they
> have been hidden. There have not been many of these postings, but there
have
> been a few. I would be surprised if there were any more.

Hi, Tom,

I haven't followed this thread too closely because it seems like much ado
about nothing, especially the post that said "SHUT UP." How rude. However,
when I read your last statement I felt compelled to join in. I just wanted
to add that when I placed my first hiker, I WANTED people to know where it
was. I wanted someone to go to this out-of-the-way box (that doesn't get a
lot of traffic, from what I've seen, and the clues are fun) and get my hiker
on the move. My hiker, my choice. No one made anyone go get it. If that
killed anyone's idea of mystery and fun or how a hitchhiker *should* be
done, too bad. (Oh, yeah, and I'd do so again.) JMHO and YMMV. But it is,
IMOHO, much more fun to keep track of hikers already on the move by tracking
where they were last picked up, not where they last got off and are waiting.
It's nice to know _when_ they have been returned to the wild, even if you
don't want to know where, so that's a very good use of a hiker page. Some
of us feel a very personal connection to our creations.

Hope we can all keep letterboxing fun!

Mary

> I don't think simply putting HH in the subject line is a solution.

Not a solution, but it can't hurt if you by into the state abbrev
business. For example, I'm aware of people who simply don't want to
see hitchhiker-related posts, whether found, placed, or abducted by
space aliens. This would be a solution for them, even if one doesn't
like my bulletin board idea, and seems akin to people in HI not wanting
to read thru clues for boxes in ME (yes, I am a big Get Smart fan ;-)).

FWIW, I see no difference between saying "I found HH X" (which gives a
hint of the location of a letterbox placed by someone else), and "I
placed HH X" (which gives a hint of the location of a letterbox placed
by someone else). If one is poor etiquette, the other seems poor
etiquette; if one is ok, the other seems ok.

Giving hints to the locations of letterboxes placed by someone else
is poor etiquette. (What you say on your own boxes when you put them
in the wild, hitchhiker or otherwise, is your business, of course).
Now, is there an exception to this rule for hitchhikers? In some
people's minds, yes, and in other people's minds, no. My guess is that
it is running about 50/50. (I do know that if someone posted hints to
the locations of boxes I created, HH or otherwise, I would be disappointed).

The point is that people as a community want it both ways. Some detest
HH chitchat, and some love it. There is a great example of this elsewhere,
and that is the DH rule in baseball, where people as a community want it
both ways, and consensus will never be reached. So they have opt-in and
opt-out. Generally, with modern media during the baseball season, you
can watch the form of baseball you prefer if this rule is such a big deal
to you (and it is a big deal to many, surprisingly enough).

So, as a community, it seems the right thing to do is to come up with
a way to opt-in and opt-out. Rights of those who don't want to deal
with HH chitchat with rights of those who find that HH chitchat is the
whole point of hitchhikers. Though not perfect, the bulletin board
idea does solve the problem.

Some other possible opt-in/opt-out solutions -

a) someone with about 20 hours spare time and a working knowledge
of php could create a HH specific web site just like the old one,
but would allow non-webmasters to update it (sort of like the bulletin
board, but HH specific).

b) People who place HH boxes should note whether this is a chatty
or secret HH. Is it a Penn or Teller HH box :-) It would be proper
etiquette to honor the request of the creator.

Well, quite a bit of blather, but I felt the need to recast the problem
as one of opt-in/opt-out, not one of right or wrong.

Cheers

I don't believe anyone in the past emails wanted to announce where they were
going to put the HH they just found, (other than a vague description, which
I only saw 2 people do). I think folks just wanted to know who found the HH
and where..for tracking purposes. ...so yes, we all agree with your point
Valerie, and Randy Hall's idea is excellent regarding a bulletin board page
with threads etc. But as I saw someone else said, if one chooses not to
know about the HH's then simply delete from the emails. They usually are
with HH on the subject line. Then everyone is happy. I certainly don't want
to know ahead of time where an HH is going. I also think that as this
community enlarges people have to be flexible. The integrity of the secrecy
is not spoiled by these slight postings of knowledge.
This ends my point ( valid or not) on the HH's.
jurneez & Vinnie the dog.
smiles & a wink



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Valerie Gilson"
To: "letterbox group"
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:37 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Hitchhikers


> Chuck Straub said:
> "I do not think that the location of where it is being
>
> placed should be announced just an announcement of
> where it was last found. In this way it can be tracked
> but nobody will know where it is going next."
>
> That's my point. There is absolutely NO need to
> announce where you plan to put the HH you just found.


> It truly ruins the spirit of secrecy of hitchhikers.
> And there IS a spirit of secrecy to hitchhikers. Or at
> least there was until recently. It doesn't matter
> doesn't matter if you are going to place it among 500
> other boxes. SHUT UP. BE DISCREET.
>
> Randy Hall came up with an excellent alternative to
> documenting the travels of these subculture boxes.
> Give them a bulletin board of their own. Isn't that
> exactly what HH postings need? A bulletin board to
> track their travels? Like Randy said: each box having
> it's own thread would be ideal.
>
> Granted, many, if not most of us are techno-illiterate
> on the web. But perhaps someone out there IS
> web-competent and can set up a web-based bulletin
> board with the ease of which Randy referred to. It's a
> solution with real merit.
>
> -Valerie
>
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There certainly is a lot of bruhaha over hitchhikers these days. We're
kind of slow starters and just started experiencing hitchhikers in the
Pacific NW last year.

What I tend to do if/when I find a hitchhiker, which I feel is a
privilege and not a hindrance, is when I find one I send a note only to
the person who created it and let them know how its travels have gone
with me. When I place it in a hostel I let them know where I last put
it. I might mention to the list that I found a hitchhiker and where it
was found, but I will not reveal where it plans to go to next. Only to
the one who placed the hitchhiker.

I don't think this subject is worth getting your undies in a bundle or
your blood pressure up. Common courtesy is always a good idea on the
list, too, I think. We all have our opinions and are free to state
them, but let's play nice, O.K., kids?


Best regards,

Amanda Briles
The Paisley Orca

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I have yet to send a hitchhiker of my own off into the big world though I
did give one a ride. When I do make a HH , and I feel EVERYONE has a right
to, I will note in the log book that I would like to be made aware of it's
travels and hope people will let me know where it has been. If I didn't
want to know anything about my HH I would note that in it's logbook and
expect most people would honor my wishes. I don't see why in the world
anyone would care to know where a HH is headed which seems the same as
knowing exactly where a letterbook is without using the clues. Leave that to
the geo-cachers. (giant BIG grin!!)

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Glenn

Perfect, as usual.

Have you used your "it's just a hobby" repetition on the talk list?

It amazes me how ugly people get - I think some people drink too much
caffeine....

Almost had a hitchhiker left with me by some NC race fans who are staying
with us this weekend, but they changed their minds...

Lucy

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I've been swamped at work and not really reading posts
closely so let me get this straight--

Someone is upset because there are more hitch hikers
than they think there should be? Someone is upset
because they don't feel hitchhikers are a real part of
letterboxing? Are you kidding me???

My goodness! I remember finding Tom Cooch's Palantir
and actually jumping up and down on the trail with
giddy glee at the find.
Now, Mainetig knows me and is probably laughing her
butt off at that image (and you would, too, if you
knew me) but it's true!
I was so excited that there was an extra surprise and
so happy to be able to see where it had been, so happy
to be able to see what some other area's and
letterboxer's stamps looked like and excited about
finding a place to put it. I can't imagine why anyone
would think this was a bad thing.

I guess there are always those who need to have
something to complain about- I just never thought
something that brought so much fun to my life would be
something that would be so controversial to some.
--- Mountain Scorpia
wrote:
> Perfect, as usual.
>
> Have you used your "it's just a hobby" repetition on
> the talk list?
>
> It amazes me how ugly people get - I think some
> people drink too much
> caffeine....
>
> Almost had a hitchhiker left with me by some NC race
> fans who are staying
> with us this weekend, but they changed their
> minds...
>
> Lucy
>
>
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Now that we are all thinking about hitchhikers, I placed one about a
year ago and haven't heard any word about it. I know it was picked up
from it's starting place and where it was left, but no news after
that. Can anyone shed any light on the travels of "The Windrider"
hitchhiker?
Home = Puget Park - Wa
Next = Snoqualmie Falls -WA
Next = ???

Thanks
Trial n Error

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "wk_burk" wrote:
> Now that we are all thinking about hitchhikers, I placed one about
a
> year ago and haven't heard any word about it. I know it was picked
up
> from it's starting place and where it was left, but no news after
> that. Can anyone shed any light on the travels of "The Windrider"
> hitchhiker?
> Home = Puget Park - Wa
> Next = Snoqualmie Falls -WA
> Next = ???
>
> Thanks
> Trial n Error


We will let you know if "we" see it here on the East Coast!!!!
These boxes have been known to travel from coast to coast!!!!
Ctpinecone

We have planted a HH and did put a note in it to contact us directly
when it's found, besides including the address to post it to the LBNA
HH page. Only two people have been kind enough to e-mail us directly
when they have found the HH. We thought it would be fun to plant a
HH and watch it go to places that we might not be able to go. But
it's been a bit of a disapppointment when it goes off on it's journey
without us knowing where it has been. We don't mind people telling
us (only to our own e-mail address) where the HH will be placed, but
I wouldn't want to see that on the message board.

Also, to the person who wrote that their HH find rate is 60%, I'd
feel a bit Hitchhikered out, too, with that many found! But if you
find a HH in a box, can't you leave it for the next person to find?
Maybe the next person would love to find one.

Our two cents worth,
Team Weems


--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "Glenn" wrote:
> I have yet to send a hitchhiker of my own off into the big world
though I
> did give one a ride. When I do make a HH , and I feel EVERYONE has
a right
> to, I will note in the log book that I would like to be made aware
of it's
> travels and hope people will let me know where it has been. If I
didn't
> want to know anything about my HH I would note that in it's logbook
and
> expect most people would honor my wishes. I don't see why in the
world
> anyone would care to know where a HH is headed which seems the same
as
> knowing exactly where a letterbook is without using the clues.
Leave that to
> the geo-cachers. (giant BIG grin!!)
>
>
> Glenn

short spike wrote:
>are hitchhikers counted as plants and finds?

Yep, count 'em!




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Hitch-hikers count as a plant for the person who launches it only (as
they are the one that carved the stamp and put the log book with it).
For the finders of the sweet treasure, they count as a find - just like
any other box.

Happy Boxing!

Tig
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It was my understanding that they count for both a find and a plant. That's
what I heard at a gathering a few months ago.

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To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Hitchhikers


Hitch-hikers count as a plant for the person who launches it only (as
they are the one that carved the stamp and put the log book with it).
For the finders of the sweet treasure, they count as a find - just like
any other box.

Happy Boxing!

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Here in Michigan I have been using a large freezer bag as an added
layer between the contents and the container for the last several
boxes I placed and adding them as I check up on the older ones. It
really does seem to help with the moisture problem. For a while I
was putting the freezer bag on the outside, placing the entire box
inside it, but was finding them tore up every time I would check up
on them -- probably just the wear and tear of being taken in and out
of the hiding spot and also critters. Works much better on the
inside and as I am checking boxes after winter, find the ones with
the inner freezer bag have handled the weather much better.

I have seen a few boxes with the little silica gel paks in the inner
bag with the log book. These always seem to be dry also. I've been
hanging onto these little babies as I buy things that have them (i.e.
shoes). Does anyone know of a source to buy these in bulk?


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Judi Lapsley Miller"
wrote:
>
>
> I was also toying with the idea of putting my LB(the entire thing)
in
> freezer zip-lock bags, the large gallon sized ones...you know the
self
> sealing ones. At least in New England it might help to keep
dampness and
> such out of the box. Another thought provoking thread!!
>
>
> I agree! Some of my boxes are like that, and it seems to increase
the chance
> of survival. I especially like the bags with the zipper on top -
folk are
> much more likely to seal the bag properly because it is easy to do.
The
> blue-zipper freezer bags are particularly good because they're
slightly
> thicker plastic.
>
> My $0.02
>
> Judi
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I posted this awhile back but will let you all know again. Last November my husband and I found the Wilderness Lodge box at Disney while on vacation. Inside it was The Magic Treehouse Hitchhiker. We brought it home with us and sent it on it's way here in Massachusetts. Hopefully we'll get out and do some more boxing this weekend or the next. Our schedules have been tight. And the weather's been so nice! Can't wait!
Lynne
P0F4HH1V1

Good morning/Afternoon/Evening everyone!

Teram Rayvenhaus will be releasing thier first hand carved stamps within the next week. RayvenDad has carved the Hitchhiker Dude and the HitchBiker Dude and they are almost set to be released as soon as they dry on thier mounts.....

Current plans are to set them out in the Pierce/King County area of Washington State.

They will be trackable/updateable from our website: http://www.myndworx.com/Rayvenhaus along with the rest of our boxes and such. Don't expect much from the site yet, I'm just starting the coding of it.

Rayvenhaus

P0 F22 E0 X0 HH1

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Locks of Silver check out Silent Doug's info site www.letterboxing.info/articles/000000.shtml



Don

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What was the new site that we could post info on HH's at?

Debbi
Treasure Finders
P16 F10 X1
PLB P8 F6
HH P1 F4
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Yahoo has a groups devoted to that:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/letterbox_travellers/messages

Wanda and Pete are the caretakers of a major site that keep tabs
nationwide (pretty devoted folks!):

http://alum.wpi.edu/~p_miner/travelers.html

Hope this helps,

Lightnin' Bug

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Debbi Scott"
wrote:
> What was the new site that we could post info on HH's at?
>
> Debbi
> Treasure Finders
> P16 F10 X1
> PLB P8 F6
> HH P1 F4
> Follow our PLBs: http://www.geocities.com/dscott5377/PLBP.html
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So, if Brian wins one of the hiking sticks being raffled off we should pull another name? In order to prevent any blood shed, of course!

"Brian, Ryan & Lori" wrote:
With the Monster Mash looming on the Horizon, I've been
thinking about the Hitchhiker dilema. I don't know if
Chuck has put any mechanisms in place to prevent a
HH nightmare, but would ask that with the sheer volume
of people planning to attend, that if anyone finds themselves
in possesion of a TGD hitchhiker that it not be subjected
to a flurry of stamping in by a large group of people at the
gathering. Our intention is that a HH be enjoyed by a 'boxer who
actually put the effort into finding a box where it may be residing.
We also don't object, if you want to hand it off to someone else to
put in a box because you won't be boxing yourself in the near future.

Some of our HH have specific criteria that is written in front of the
log book. Others have not. I would hope that if presented with the
opportunity of stamping into HH at a gathering, most boxers would
decline and perhaps gently educate the offender regarding HH protocol
i.e. - find a HH in a box, move it to another box.

We have been guilty of stamping into HH at an event last year. The
experience is much like when you read the last page of a book before
you get to it. It's anti-climatic and leaves a bad taste in your
mouth.

OK - so, in a nutshell, anyone caught stamping into a HH at a
gathering will be beat to a bloody pulp with Brian's whacking stick.
Got it?????? (Oh for God's sake, I'm only kidding - He'll leave his
whacking stick at home)

Lori - TeamGreenDragon





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I'm not afraid of Brain one bit. You on the other hand
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--- "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:

>
> With the Monster Mash looming on the Horizon, I've
> been
> thinking about the Hitchhiker dilema. I don't know
> if
> Chuck has put any mechanisms in place to prevent a
> HH nightmare, but would ask that with the sheer
> volume
> of people planning to attend, that if anyone finds
> themselves
> in possesion of a TGD hitchhiker that it not be
> subjected
> to a flurry of stamping in by a large group of
> people at the
> gathering. Our intention is that a HH be enjoyed by
> a 'boxer who
> actually put the effort into finding a box where it
> may be residing.
> We also don't object, if you want to hand it off to
> someone else to
> put in a box because you won't be boxing yourself in
> the near future.
>
> Some of our HH have specific criteria that is
> written in front of the
> log book. Others have not. I would hope that if
> presented with the
> opportunity of stamping into HH at a gathering, most
> boxers would
> decline and perhaps gently educate the offender
> regarding HH protocol
> i.e. - find a HH in a box, move it to another box.
>
> We have been guilty of stamping into HH at an event
> last year. The
> experience is much like when you read the last page
> of a book before
> you get to it. It's anti-climatic and leaves a bad
> taste in your
> mouth.
>
> OK - so, in a nutshell, anyone caught stamping into
> a HH at a
> gathering will be beat to a bloody pulp with Brian's
> whacking stick.
> Got it?????? (Oh for God's sake, I'm only kidding
> - He'll leave his
> whacking stick at home)
>
> Lori - TeamGreenDragon


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by H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

759

Lori, will we still be beaten to a pulp if the HH owner has asked us to take it to the gathering?
Dragon Lady of TCB

"Brian, Ryan & Lori" wrote:

OK - so, in a nutshell, anyone caught stamping into a HH at a
gathering will be beat to a bloody pulp with Brian's whacking stick.
Got it?????? (Oh for God's sake, I'm only kidding - He'll leave his
whacking stick at home)

Lori - TeamGreenDragon


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Hi,
I am new to this but can someone please explain to me how to post a
hitchhiker? I am not sure where or how to post. As far as regular
boxes where do I post them?

Thanks
Leigh Kuchera

Welcome to the list Leigh!

1) You can certainly post about hitchhikers on this list, but there
is another list "letterbox-travellers" that is specifically geared
towards hitchhiker questions, comments, reports, etc. Joining that
list may be more fruitful if you are trying to "post" about finding
one. The other good thing about that group is that Wanda and Pete
monitor it and condense that information into their Hitch Hiker
Tracking Page (a sort of web-based log). The link to Pete's page can
be found in the "links" section of that group and we'd suggest you
bookmark it.

2) In earlier years of this list, you would see many box reports
(aka "sitreps" of boxes found) on this big list. The list has no
grown to more than 2200 members and it seems that box reports have
almost been shunned on this list. It's still fair game and is likely
a good idea if you have a neat or fun story to share with everyone.
You may, however, wish to join a regional talk list to post box
reports. Many 'boxers seem to spend a little more time reading [in
depth] the regional list for their particular area [ i.e. LBNE =
Letterboxing New England].

Please feel free to continue these questions -- they are all good
questions and you're definately not the first to inquire!

-Steve and Heidi in CT
(and we assist Randy as LBNA moderators)

<<>>
> Hi,
> I am new to this but can someone please explain to me how to post a
> hitchhiker? I am not sure where or how to post. As far as regular
> boxes where do I post them?
>
> Thanks
> Leigh Kuchera

Hitchhiker Tips and Etiquette
by Silent Doug

Whatever you do, don't publicly divulge the location of the hitchhiker!

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "matolutacikala"
wrote:
>
> Hitchhiker Tips and Etiquette
> by Silent Doug
>
> Whatever you do, don't publicly divulge the location of the
hitchhiker!
>
EXCEPT 'Honor Liberty' and she has apparantly gotten stuck somewhere
in Oregon again.

Don

As far as I know, Honor Liberty is still at Yellow Rose of Suffrage in
Troutdale. I posted her whereabouts, and I havent seen or heard of anyone
picking her up yet.



Maiden



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Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:37 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "matolutacikala"
wrote:
>
> Hitchhiker Tips and Etiquette
> by Silent Doug
>
> Whatever you do, don't publicly divulge the location of the
hitchhiker!
>
EXCEPT 'Honor Liberty' and she has apparantly gotten stuck somewhere
in Oregon again.

Don






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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Melanie" wrote:
>
> As far as I know, Honor Liberty is still at Yellow Rose of Suffrage
in
> Troutdale. I posted her whereabouts, and I haven't seen or heard of
anyone
> picking her up yet.
>
>
>
> Maiden
>
Thanks Maiden. I saw your posting, but thought it would have been
picked up by now.

Don

Okay... for us newbies... why is "Honor Liberty" an exception???

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-----Original Message-----
From: Melanie
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:43:51 -0800
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Hitchhikers

As far as I know, Honor Liberty is still at Yellow Rose of Suffrage in
Troutdale. I posted her whereabouts, and I haven?t seen or heard of
anyone
picking her up yet.



Maiden



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From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of gwendontoo
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:37 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "matolutacikala"
wrote:
>
> Hitchhiker Tips and Etiquette
> by Silent Doug
>
> Whatever you do, don't publicly divulge the location of the
hitchhiker!
>
EXCEPT 'Honor Liberty' and she has apparantly gotten stuck somewhere
in Oregon again.

Don






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I would have thought so too. If anyone is heading out that way and wants to
pick it up but cant figure out the clues, give me a shout. Im not an ogre
and would be willing to help with it in order to get Honor Liberty moving
again.



Maiden



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On Behalf Of gwendontoo
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:48 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Melanie" wrote:
>
> As far as I know, Honor Liberty is still at Yellow Rose of Suffrage
in
> Troutdale. I posted her whereabouts, and I haven't seen or heard of
anyone
> picking her up yet.
>
>
>
> Maiden
>
Thanks Maiden. I saw your posting, but thought it would have been
picked up by now.

Don






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--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, jsh11a@... wrote:
>
> Okay... for us newbies... why is "Honor Liberty" an exception???
>
>
She was started on 9-11-2002 and on 9-11-2003 and 9-11-2004 we
received the HHer back and posted the comments that were written in
her logbook. She had a bit of a spell around 9-11-2005 and she wasn't
returned so the comments weren't posted this last year. This is the
only HHer of this type that I'm aware of, so many folks are a little
reluctant to post her current location even though that info is
clearly posted on her container, logbook and several info sheets
within the letterbox. Posting the location makes for an interesting
and different type of letterbox.

Don

... and besides, Yellow Rose of Suffrage is a great stamp!

Wisconsin Hiker

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melanie
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:53 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Hitchhikers

I would have thought so too. If anyone is heading out that way and wants to
pick it up but cant figure out the clues, give me a shout. Im not an ogre
and would be willing to help with it in order to get Honor Liberty moving
again.

Maiden

Ahh, thanks! Its one of the Brat Packs greatest boxes. We really enjoyed
putting it together.


Maiden



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On Behalf Of Debbie Kotlarek
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:59 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Hitchhikers



... and besides, Yellow Rose of Suffrage is a great stamp!

Wisconsin Hiker

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Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:53 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LbNA] Hitchhikers

I would have thought so too. If anyone is heading out that way and wants to
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again.

Maiden





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Is she your plant? (Guress I could just go look it up, huh???)

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From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:57:36 -0000
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, jsh11a@... wrote:
>
> Okay... for us newbies... why is "Honor Liberty" an exception???
>
>
She was started on 9-11-2002 and on 9-11-2003 and 9-11-2004 we
received the HHer back and posted the comments that were written in
her logbook. She had a bit of a spell around 9-11-2005 and she wasn't
returned so the comments weren't posted this last year. This is the
only HHer of this type that I'm aware of, so many folks are a little
reluctant to post her current location even though that info is
clearly posted on her container, logbook and several info sheets
within the letterbox. Posting the location makes for an interesting
and different type of letterbox.

Don






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Speaking of interesting HHers....Did Silent Doug ever find his Car
Keys??

y-nought


> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, jsh11a@ wrote:
> >
> > Okay... for us newbies... why is "Honor Liberty" an exception???
> >
> >
> She was started on 9-11-2002 and on 9-11-2003 and 9-11-2004 we
> received the HHer back and posted the comments that were written in
> her logbook. .............................Posting the location
makes for an interesting
> and different type of letterbox.
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "edwebbe" wrote:
>
> Speaking of interesting HHers....Did Silent Doug ever find his Car
> Keys??
>
> y-nought
>


Okay, maybe "Honor Liberty" isn't the only different HHer we have set
out. I forgot about "Silent Doug's Car Key". Last I heard his key was
somewhere in Canyon Lands in the SW.

Don

Ok, now you have to explain Silent Doug's car keys.
Goose Chaser


-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "gwendontoo"
wrote:
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "edwebbe" wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of interesting HHers....Did Silent Doug ever find his
Car
> > Keys??
> >
> > y-nought
> >
>
>
> Okay, maybe "Honor Liberty" isn't the only different HHer we have
set
> out. I forgot about "Silent Doug's Car Key". Last I heard his key
was
> somewhere in Canyon Lands in the SW.
>
> Don
>

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "jojoma22" wrote:
>
> Ok, now you have to explain Silent Doug's car keys.
> Goose Chaser
>
>
Only those that find this HHer will have the embarrassment explained.
Now if you would like to do some research then you can figure it out
by checking the date of its release on the HHer list, and then
checking the archives of this list around that date.

Don

I did the research and all I could figure out about the HH is that at a
gathering and in somebody's driveway, he released a HH that claims to
be a car key. I can't derive what makes it special... if this is a
literal car key or figurative (you know, just a regular HH). It doesn't
explain here if it has a mission (e.g., return this set of keys back to
Douglas). So I guess you had to be there.

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "gwendontoo"
wrote:
>
> Only those that find this HHer will have the embarrassment explained.
>

We are so new to this and I think that we ran into our first hitchhicker w/o understanding what it was. Were we supposed to move it to another box? The Ruppies

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I used to get excited when I found them, but I am finding them more
and more often and I am starting to not like them as much as I once
have.

I don't like them for three reasons. The first is I see them time and
time again get confused with the actual stamp and logbook of the
letterbox. I found one HH with 6 enteries that looked like they were
just logging as a letterbox and not a HH. The second is that as the
boxes are getting smaller, many barely have room for the logbook and
stamp much less a HH. I found two last year that the boxes were not
shut tight, and there was no way to shut them tight with the HH
inside. And one more point, I think that there are just too many and
they are loosing their "specialness"

What do you think?

I have posted a poll on my blog on the side bar if you are interested

http://bakersoutdoors.blogspot.com/

Later

Baker

For me, the rate of finding them seems to ebb and
flow. If I begin running in to more than I want to
deal with, I just ignore them. I only have one of my
own in the wild.

It does seem that often the last placer has not
correctly stamped in, so it takes even more time than
usual to make sure the box's stamp is included before
moving it on. And you have to be with patient people
when you're leaving one, too, because of the extra
time. [Noxers want to get MOVING!]

Just like traditional boxes, I've seen some very
clever HHs, and some others that seem pretty slapdash.

Mommo




--- Baker wrote:

> I used to get excited when I found them, but I am
> finding them more
> and more often and I am starting to not like them as
> much as I once
> have.
>
> I don't like them for three reasons. The first is I
> see them time and
> time again get confused with the actual stamp and
> logbook of the
> letterbox. I found one HH with 6 enteries that
> looked like they were
> just logging as a letterbox and not a HH. The second
> is that as the
> boxes are getting smaller, many barely have room for
> the logbook and
> stamp much less a HH. I found two last year that the
> boxes were not
> shut tight, and there was no way to shut them tight
> with the HH
> inside. And one more point, I think that there are
> just too many and
> they are loosing their "specialness"
>
> What do you think?
>
> I have posted a poll on my blog on the side bar if
> you are interested
>
> http://bakersoutdoors.blogspot.com/
>
> Later
>
> Baker
>
>



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When I see HH log books with stamps but not being taken, I have started to
assume that it's because the person wants to acknowledge that they found the
stamp but does not want the responsibility of taking it and moving it along.


I agree, there are HHs everywhere. But, I still love them. It's almost
like a bonus box. Plus, I love being able to move a HHer FAR away from it's
original release area. And by far I mean at least to another state, but
even across country or as far as you can move them. I think it would be
exciting for the planter to see the logs of the HHer's travels far afield,
not just around the same neighborhood.

RIFamily



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<< And one more point, I think that there are just too many and
they are loosing their "specialness"

What do you think?
>>

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Yep, I vote for that one. Definitely just too many of 'em.

But, in perusing the choices at your blog, you don't have that option. I
don't wish they'd go away completely. When I first began letterboxing and
they were much more rare, it was fun to find them. I just wish there were
far less of them out there. Every boxer in captivity seems to be releasing
hitchhikers nowadays. Except me. I've never released one.

Or maybe they're hooking up with fellow stamps in an amorous way and
multiplying all by themselves. If the Cylons can evolve, why not HHs?

~~ Mosey ~~

I have never released a HH. But this week, one of my students is leaving CT and moving to OH. I learned when we were preparing for a field trip recently that she is a letterboxer, so I told her I'd create a HH for her to plant the first time she goes letterboxing in OH. Any advice for what should be included with it? Sometimes when I've found HHs that I've ended up bringing home with me til the next trip (or that were so large it took several trips to find a box to accept them!), I've printed up the HH protocol to leave with them when I planted them again. I've definitely seen the confusion where it looks like people have been stamping in to the HH instead of the main log! So right now I'm planning to send the stamp, logbook & HH protocol info sheet, probably in a clearly labeled freezer bag. Am I forgetting anything??

Thanks!
Kit Kat

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From: "rifamily"
> When I see HH log books with stamps but not being taken, I have started to
> assume that it's because the person wants to acknowledge that they found the
> stamp but does not want the responsibility of taking it and moving it along.
>
>
> I agree, there are HHs everywhere. But, I still love them. It's almost
> like a bonus box. Plus, I love being able to move a HHer FAR away from it's
> original release area. And by far I mean at least to another state, but
> even across country or as far as you can move them. I think it would be
> exciting for the planter to see the logs of the HHer's travels far afield,
> not just around the same neighborhood.
>
> RIFamily
>
>
>
> > =62626/stime=1209844308/nc1=4767085/nc2=4507179/nc3=5028924>
>
>
>
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>




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I don't know...I am starting to think that we may be part of a small group
after reading about all this hitchhiker chatter. We love them! We love it
all!!!!! I don't know, we think it is exciting to find a hitchhiker, it is
like a bonus to us. Those hitchhikers are something that someone used their
time, their money, and their creativity to do for US...all of us! We never feel
"Ugh....another one!" Each box we find no matter if it is a traditional,
HH, cootie, flee...we love it all and they all excite us...one more box to
support a great hobby! BRING ON THE BOXES!!!! LOL!



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I received a surprise email today telling me that a hitchhiker that I launched back in September of 2007 in Door County WI was just found in Japan.

I figured that it was lost for sure since not one person had ever reported finding it since the day that it was launched.

This just had me wondering -- what's the fartherst that your hitchikers have ever travled? How long have they been out on the road?

Wow, that's amazing!! Did you ask the finder how many places it has been to
see how it traveled (if they still have the HH logbook)? There probably
aren't many letterboxes in Japan, are there?



I launch one hitchhiker a year, beginning in 2004, so 6 total. The first
was found once, then placed in a box that was muggled before anyone else
found it. As far as I know the other 5 are still out & about. They all
have a common theme (Mr. Suave, Beat Generation, Beatnik, Bongo Player and
Cool Beat). I rarely hear about them, but once in a blue moon someone does
email me. One that I launched in CA made its way fairly quickly to the east
coast.



Wisconsin Hiker





From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Phillip
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:22 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Hitchhikers





I received a surprise email today telling me that a hitchhiker that I
launched back in September of 2007 in Door County WI was just found in
Japan.

I figured that it was lost for sure since not one person had ever reported
finding it since the day that it was launched.

This just had me wondering -- what's the fartherst that your hitchikers have
ever travled? How long have they been out on the road?





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