Opinions

Re: [LbNA] Opinions

From: John De Wolf (jdewolf@mail.icrsurvey.com) | Date: 2000-07-07 09:52:45 UTC-04:00

Elizabeth,

I, for one, am really glad you stepped up and offered your opinion. I would encourage all (127 at last count) who subscribe to this list, to speak up more often. It's that exchange that allows our little community and hobby to grow and evolve.

As to your opinion, I agree. While I have no objection to rest stop boxes (although I'm afraid they'll get trashed rather quickly), I prefer boxes that take me and the boys out in nature, a historic park (Valley Forge), or a beautiful town (Mystic, CT) for a while. Then, in addition to the joy of findign the box, there's been a whole experience built around the process of finding it. At some level, the letterbox has become an excuse/motivation to go out and discover a new area.

I also have to agree with Randy and would like to see more "challenging" boxes/clues. There are some clues out there that I've been working on for over a year now, and that's a lot of fun. Can you imagine my joy, when I actually find one of these!!!! They don't have to be super difficult either. sometimes just a ltitle twist to the clues is all that';s neede to make a real neat clue. A further motivation for more challenging clues, is the decreased likelihood that the box will get thrashed.

My $.02,

Lone Wolf

>>> Elizabeth Tripp 07/07 9:18 PM >>>
Hi everyone,

it's been awhile, but colin and i have been plugging away at the
letterboxes posted around connecticut and rhode island. slowly but
surely!! have not found one yet that is not a drew clan letterbox!! boy
are you guys active.

i do want to put my two cents in about the rest stop letterboxes. part of
this "game" is the walkabout in the woods, and the communing with nature.
i relish the times that colin, the dog and i can take a quiet few hours and
tromp along. we really use the time to explore the natural environment and
to discuss issues that are on my eight year olds mind. to be able to walk
in the woods, get closer to each other and then find a treasure at the end
of the path is what attracted us to letterboxing in the first place. i
think the hustle and bustle of rest stops does not lend itself to the
"game", plus it seems to be just to "get a stamp", not the actual hunt of
it. also, i really like the idea of people stumbling into letterboxing,
like it seems most of us have, through reading, or word of mouth. i know
this sounds elitist - i don't mean it to (please everyone, don't take me to
task for it!) - but it's a delicious secret!!

anyway, that's how i feel. i know i haven't been doing it as long as some
others, so maybe i shouldn't offer an opinion.

elizabeth

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From: needeeps2002 (needeeps@webtv.net) | Date: 2003-05-13 02:34:46 UTC

I will start by saying I,m sorry one more time.Thats right, everyone has the right to their opinion I,m all for it.I did not mind any of the comments that I have read,in fact I welcome them.Sometimes other ideas can make you see things a differant way.But we found one persons opinion to be very insulting to my wife and I and we did not think that we deserved it.Maybe we took it the wrong way,and if we did then I take back my other statement.Were here to have fun just like everyone else,were not here to start trouble.Again it was just an idea,trust me i'll never post another one.And this is my last posting on this subject.

Re: [LbNA] Opinions

From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) | Date: 2003-05-12 22:57:41 UTC-04:00

> Maybe we took it the wrong way

If you are referring to my post, you took it the wrong way.

In my 5 years of letterboxing, I've written that opinion many times
and in many forms. I admitted at the top that it was unpopular, but
never once has it generated such a response. (in fact, nothing I
have _ever_ wrote has elicited a response such that I may have to
worry about who I meet on the trails or at gatherings). Quite frankly,
I feel that that was my most lucid attempt at that opinion, and had
no intent to inflame anyone. Moreover, as I stated at the top, I
was responding more to the general idea than your specific idea anyway,
and moreover at the bottom, I wrote "and I'm not trying to say "bad
idea" -- just present some words from a different point of view about
where I derive fun in this game".

It seems clear that the "fermentation/distillation" metaphor generated
confusion. Unfortunately, I'm aware of no better way to explain it.

Cheers

Re: [LbNA] Opinions

From: needeeps2002 (needeeps@webtv.net) | Date: 2003-05-13 03:36:17 UTC

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
> > Maybe we took it the wrong way
>
> If you are referring to my post, you took it the wrong way.
>
> In my 5 years of letterboxing, I've written that opinion many times
> and in many forms. I admitted at the top that it was unpopular, but
> never once has it generated such a response. (in fact, nothing I
> have _ever_ wrote has elicited a response such that I may have to
> worry about who I meet on the trails or at gatherings). Quite frankly,
> I feel that that was my most lucid attempt at that opinion, and had
> no intent to inflame anyone. Moreover, as I stated at the top, I
> was responding more to the general idea than your specific idea anyway,
> and moreover at the bottom, I wrote "and I'm not trying to say "bad
> idea" -- just present some words from a different point of view about
> where I derive fun in this game".
>
> It seems clear that the "fermentation/distillation" metaphor generated
> confusion. Unfortunately, I'm aware of no better way to explain it.
>
> Cheers >Randy,you have nothing to worry about,you have a flare with words and I took somethings the wrong way,but it was just a misunderstanding.All I want to do now is forget about it.And if we meet on the trail all's I want is a handshake and a exchange,sound good to you.Lenny

RE: [LbNA] Opinions

From: Judi Lapsley Miller (judi@psychokiwi.org) | Date: 2003-05-13 07:13:15 UTC-04:00

> > Maybe we took it the wrong way
>
> If you are referring to my post, you took it the wrong way.

> It seems clear that the "fermentation/distillation" metaphor
> generated confusion. Unfortunately, I'm aware of no better
> way to explain it.

Are you sure it wasn't the bit saying "in such a way that _he_ would be able
to find the box" (with "he" even underscored)?

Other than that, I found your post fascinating - I hadn't thought about
boxing from that viewpoint.

As for the original topic of discussion - I like the idea of having contact
details with the clues so I can let the owner know about the status of the
box. But I'm also wary of having a system where anyone can flag a box as
"missing" unless the flag is set by the box owner. We have found a number
of "missing" boxes, but, ironically maybe, I'm less inclined to go hunting
for a box if I think it might not be there. Go figure.

Cheers,

Judi

Re: [LbNA] Opinions

From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) | Date: 2003-05-13 08:19:15 UTC-04:00

> And if we meet on the trail all's I want is a handshake and a
> exchange,sound good to you.

Of course, no hard feelings. E-mail is tough.

> Are you sure it wasn't the bit saying "in such a way that _he_ would be able
> to find the box" (with "he" even underscored)?

"He" refers to the generic hider earlier in the point, and is emphasised
because it would seem odd to care how the hider would find the box, but
that is the idea of treasure maps (sorry if that was the source of trouble):

> Hider interacts with place
> and creates textual representation of place and location of box (what I
> call "the map"), in such a way that _he_ would be able to find the box
> (pirates didn't write treasure maps for others to find -- the idea was to
> jog _their_ memory, but be _obscure_ to others (we, of course, take some
> liberties to make the game playable).

Cheers