I started as a geocacher and stumbled onto a letterbox, that my story. I
have 1300+ finds & 75+ hides on the geo side, 15 finds & 1 hides on the LB
side. I think a lot of the new people doing geocaching should read some of
the guide lines, even on the geocaching site.

But as with any game, work, church.... there's no shortage of stupid people
out there. It seems like I have been saying that a lot lately...hummm?

I find it takes less skill to find a LB, the ones I have found were easy,
just read the directions. I have wished I could find some geocaches that
easy. What I like about LB's is the creative stamps. I would like to make
some of the stamps like I have seen. I also have a hybrid geocache and is a
members only so it gets less traffic and less chances of getting ruined.

As far as placing geocaches in sensitive areas, to many cachers are on a
search and destroy mission, I have seen some real trashed areas that are
from all the geo traffic.

All in all, both are a great bunch of people and its good to get us/them off
the couch, out side for some exercise and fresh air.

Don





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Hedglin, Nils A
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:37 AM
To: LbNCA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNCA] Geocaching



I know some Letterboxers (me included) tend to have a bad impression of
Geocachers & I'm wondering if it's really warrented. Are they really
less considerate & careful as a whole? Is it just rivalry between the
two hobbies? Is it that geocaching is more popular so there's more
people & more traffic, & therefore more chance for problems? Or is it
the standard case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch? I know
nothing about the Geocaching community & my bad impression is solely
based on what I've heard them do to Letterboxes they've found & my
perception that it takes less skill to geocache since a GPS is used &
they trade kids meal toys instead of one-of-a-kind stamp images.
Someone has asked my opinion on allowing a Geocache in a highly
sensitive area (both environmentally & socially), so I wanted to get
more informed opinions before I answered.

Thanks,
Black Cavailer


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ummhumm... I do both too.. I second your opinion Don...

Don Forman wrote: I started as a geocacher and stumbled onto a letterbox, that my story. I
have 1300+ finds & 75+ hides on the geo side, 15 finds & 1 hides on the LB
side. I think a lot of the new people doing geocaching should read some of
the guide lines, even on the geocaching site.

But as with any game, work, church.... there's no shortage of stupid people
out there. It seems like I have been saying that a lot lately...hummm?

I find it takes less skill to find a LB, the ones I have found were easy,
just read the directions. I have wished I could find some geocaches that
easy. What I like about LB's is the creative stamps. I would like to make
some of the stamps like I have seen. I also have a hybrid geocache and is a
members only so it gets less traffic and less chances of getting ruined.

As far as placing geocaches in sensitive areas, to many cachers are on a
search and destroy mission, I have seen some real trashed areas that are
from all the geo traffic.

All in all, both are a great bunch of people and its good to get us/them off
the couch, out side for some exercise and fresh air.

Don





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From: LbNCA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LbNCA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Hedglin, Nils A
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:37 AM
To: LbNCA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNCA] Geocaching



I know some Letterboxers (me included) tend to have a bad impression of
Geocachers & I'm wondering if it's really warrented. Are they really
less considerate & careful as a whole? Is it just rivalry between the
two hobbies? Is it that geocaching is more popular so there's more
people & more traffic, & therefore more chance for problems? Or is it
the standard case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch? I know
nothing about the Geocaching community & my bad impression is solely
based on what I've heard them do to Letterboxes they've found & my
perception that it takes less skill to geocache since a GPS is used &
they trade kids meal toys instead of one-of-a-kind stamp images.
Someone has asked my opinion on allowing a Geocache in a highly
sensitive area (both environmentally & socially), so I wanted to get
more informed opinions before I answered.

Thanks,
Black Cavailer


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On Jan 4, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Don Forman wrote:

> I find it takes less skill to find a LB, the ones I have found were
> easy,
> just read the directions. I have wished I could find some geocaches
> that
> easy. What I like about LB's is the creative stamps. I would like to
> make
> some of the stamps like I have seen. I also have a hybrid geocache
> and is a
> members only so it gets less traffic and less chances of getting
> ruined.

That's interesting that you say that LB is easier as I have the
impression that Geocaching is easier - but that may be because the ones
you have searched for are the most accessible. I guess the reason that
Geocaching does not appeal to me is that it relies too much on
technology. I like the creative aspects of letterboxing. Although the
hunting part is lots of fun to me, but reward of finding the stamp and
the joy of seeing that it is hand carved is the most important aspect
for me.

It is my understanding that there are lots more geocachers out there -
don't know if that's because it is more widely marketed as a hobby or
what. While there are definitely dumb people in both the world of
geocaching and letterboxing who will not understand the importance of
rehiding well and being discreet and sensitive to the natural world,
the sheer numbers of geocachers mean that they are going to have more
of an impact. I think that's why we hear more stories about them. I
have met some geocachers who were very cool and creative also, and have
even brought a couple over to the LB side. Don and Michelle, can you
tell us if there is a community in the geocaching world like ours here
on LbNCA? Or is everyone out there just sort of doing it on their own?
Sorry I don't know too much about that aspect.

-- Princess Lea


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Hi Black Cavalier -

We do both caching and letterboxing and its fabulous to mix the two!
The rest of our extended family are mainly cachers even though I
have carved them all stamps so they can do both as well.

Just like we've discovered many a wonderful place while boxing, the
same is true for caching.

We print out clues for both caches AND boxes when we head somewhere -
like this Saturday we were in Davis and we got 2 caches and 1
letterbox (and one attempted but not found box) and a tasty lunch.
It was such a lovely afternoon and one of the caches was along this
beautiful walkway by a river going through the UCD campus. I had no
idea such a wonderful place to walk was there! It was a great walk
and a fun hide.

Both caches and boxes can each be difficult to find (requiring
skill) - if the clues on each, as well as the placer, is clever and
creative! (I've seen poor versions of both.)

Try it sometime! ;)

Take care,
Lynnette
shyflea & the Circus Dog

--- In LbNCA@yahoogroups.com, "Hedglin, Nils A"
wrote:
>
> I know some Letterboxers (me included) tend to have a bad
impression of
> Geocachers & I'm wondering if it's really warrented. Are they
really
> less considerate & careful as a whole? Is it just rivalry between
the
> two hobbies? Is it that geocaching is more popular so there's more
> people & more traffic, & therefore more chance for problems? Or
is it
> the standard case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch? I know
> nothing about the Geocaching community & my bad impression is
solely
> based on what I've heard them do to Letterboxes they've found & my
> perception that it takes less skill to geocache since a GPS is
used &
> they trade kids meal toys instead of one-of-a-kind stamp images.
> Someone has asked my opinion on allowing a Geocache in a highly
> sensitive area (both environmentally & socially), so I wanted to
get
> more informed opinions before I answered.
>
> Thanks,
> Black Cavailer
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

There sure is.. I just heard about this right before Christmas
Geocachers of the Bay Area 1
Lea Shangraw Fox wrote:
On Jan 4, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Don Forman wrote:

> I find it takes less skill to find a LB, the ones I have found were
> easy,
> just read the directions. I have wished I could find some geocaches
> that
> easy. What I like about LB's is the creative stamps. I would like to
> make
> some of the stamps like I have seen. I also have a hybrid geocache
> and is a
> members only so it gets less traffic and less chances of getting
> ruined.

That's interesting that you say that LB is easier as I have the
impression that Geocaching is easier - but that may be because the ones
you have searched for are the most accessible. I guess the reason that
Geocaching does not appeal to me is that it relies too much on
technology. I like the creative aspects of letterboxing. Although the
hunting part is lots of fun to me, but reward of finding the stamp and
the joy of seeing that it is hand carved is the most important aspect
for me.

It is my understanding that there are lots more geocachers out there -
don't know if that's because it is more widely marketed as a hobby or
what. While there are definitely dumb people in both the world of
geocaching and letterboxing who will not understand the importance of
rehiding well and being discreet and sensitive to the natural world,
the sheer numbers of geocachers mean that they are going to have more
of an impact. I think that's why we hear more stories about them. I
have met some geocachers who were very cool and creative also, and have
even brought a couple over to the LB side. Don and Michelle, can you
tell us if there is a community in the geocaching world like ours here
on LbNCA? Or is everyone out there just sort of doing it on their own?
Sorry I don't know too much about that aspect.

-- Princess Lea


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Here is the link/website Geocachers of the Bay Area

http://www.thegba.net/

There is a lot of active folks there on the forums to.

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Michelle Boot
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:58 PM
To: LbNCA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNCA] Geocaching



There sure is.. I just heard about this right before Christmas
Geocachers of the Bay Area 1
Lea Shangraw Fox wrote:
On Jan 4, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Don Forman wrote:

Don and Michelle, can you
tell us if there is a community in the geocaching world like ours here
on LbNCA? Or is everyone out there just sort of doing it on their own?
Sorry I don't know too much about that aspect.

-- Princess Lea


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